*SNIP* the only real difference between using that and telnet is that you type ssh somewhere.org instead of telnet somewhere.org. Not quite true. with ssh you need to issue the command in one of 2 ways. You can either use, ssh user@some.where where user@some.where is your user account on the remote machine, or use ssh -luser some.where where the -l flag tells ssh that you want to login as a specific user. hth -- Shaun Oliver In a world without fences and walls who needs Windows and Gates? EMAIL: shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au ICQ: 76958435