waiig is for web issues. unfortunately, much pdf is also packaged with stuff you get in the mail or through direct retail on cds etc so is not on the web. pdf a ccessibility or the lack there of is more by a great deal than a web issue although it could take a lot of lessons from wai and others. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles McCathieNevile" <charles@w3.org> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 4:58 PM Subject: Re: pdf forms from Social Security On the one hand this is pretty strictly an American issue. On the other hand, it is interesting to know why you don't think that at least properly written PDF for acrobat 5 is not accessible (obviously there is a lot of PDF that isn't written to be accessible - and there isn't much to discuss about that). It might be that the WAI Interest Group list - w3c-wai-ig@w3.org - is a more approapriate place to discuss this question (or it might not). Cheers Charles McCN On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: >This is a clear cut 508 violation, in my view. There is no good >accessibility to forms in PDF on any platform, including Microsoft >Windows. > > >On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, Cheryl Homiak wrote: > >> does anybody know whether or not there is a way to read the pdf forms on the >> social security site? I tried pdftotext and they did not come out legible. >> I also tried using google; the text version link got me a 'not found" and >> the html link (I put in the url for a particular form) got me the same >> illegible form that I got when trying to use pdftotext. >> For an example, one of the forms i tried to access was >> http://www.ssa.gov/online/ssa-632.pdf >> Also, >> is there any way to print these files to a printer short of finding somebody >> with >> a Windows system to do it? >> SSA provides just about nothing as far as their forms in accessible format, and >> if they are going to >> say their website provides that, their pdf files certainly don't appear to be >> accessible to me. Ironically, the instructions for the forms are right on the >> website, but the explanation is such that you have to be able to look at the >> form to understand the instructions. >> >> Cheryl >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > > -- Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles phone: +61 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI fax: +33 4 92 38 78 22 Location: 21 Mitchell street FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia (or W3C INRIA, Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France) _______________________________________________ Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list