Hello, Here is what I tried to get my e-mail up. I haven't tried everything that was suggested yet, because until e-mail is working i can only run Linux at night. The command fetchmail -v -u director@chpi02 mail.voyagerhosting.net produced first a reqauest for my password. then it tried the various protocols and settled on pop3. Then it said "invalid user name or password". Next I tried fetchmail -v -u director chpi.org This seemed to work better, so I tried it without the -v, then ran pine. But there were no messages. I assome that fetchmail knows where to put messages so Pine can find them. Next, I wrote a .fetchmailrc file with the lines poll chpi.org proto pop3 user director pass *))&&^^ then fetchmail -v first said it was querying the server using pop3 then it said status=2 (SOCKET) Running fetchmail without the -v again produced no messages. This address gets a lot of mail, so there should have been some. the -c option also produced nothing. I also have a yahoo e-mail address for monitoring mailing lists. When I typed fetchmail -v -u techbrl mail.yahoo.com It asked for my password, then tried IMAP, then just sat there until I pressed control+c. I hope these details put us closer to the solution to the problem. Your help is very much appreciated. John Computers to Help People, Inc. http://www.chpi.org 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703