There has been much emotional debate on whether add speech support to the kernel or not. I actually can't see any strong arguments against besides kernel bloat and the problem of having to recognize speech hardware as early as possible in the startup phase (in case there are some arguments I'm not aware of, then please reply to me personaly, and if anyone's interested, I'll summarize those and post them back to blinux-devel). As far as I can tell there's a "simple" minimal solution to the two above problems: - Use the internal speaker for output: the internal speaker should be really easy to use, since it is an absolute standart on all PCs. I don't know about lilo, but maybe it could be even used by lilo (!!!) so we could have speach output really --from-- the start. - There's an existing kernel patch that uses the internal speaker for sound production. - If we don't want to bloat the kernel with complex TTS, then the "speech" output could only consist of spelling the output out. This could suffice (minimal aproach!) for non sighted people for system install and debuging. At the moment when the kernel starts the init programm a more sophisticated speech solution can take over. What do you think? * t PS: I notice that often the same things (ideas) are discussed many times on blinux (sometimes even in parallel) without aparently people being aware of the fact. I have the impression that this is a bit specific to blinux. I'm a sighted person, so I might need to be clued in on how blind people percieve mailing lists or email in particular. So if my phrase constructions are awkward or incomprehensible then please tell me (privately). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tomas Pospisek - Freelance: Linuxing, Networking http://spin.ch/~tpo/freelance www.SPIN.ch - Internet Services in Graubuenden/Switzerland ------------------------------------------------------------------------------