On Thu, 2024-09-26 at 03:02 +0200, Abraham S.A.H. wrote: > And worst is, that any complaint anywhere usually results in > aggressive or hostile responses. Hi, this does not apply to GNOME as a whole, there are GNOME developers listening, not to mention projects that use GTK and have nothing to do with GNOME. Regards, Ralf PS: TL;DR However, GNOME has at least taken a very aggressive step in terms of communicating with users. Gamification [1]! All mailing lists hosted by the Gnome project were dropped in favour of a gamification forum [2]. AFAIK Discourse doesn't enforce gamification, just the GNOME folks decided to enforce gamification to their users. Btw. no, no, no, Discourse does not provide a mailing list feature. 1. Before you can use what they call a mailing list, you have to have earned enough points playing on the forum. 2. The so-called mailing list has nothing in common with a real mailing list, e.g. there are no threads. The midnight commander and evolution communities have moved their mailing lists to OSU OSL. Midnight commander isn't GNOME but was hosted at GNOME. Evolution is part of the GNOME project, but in terms of GUI design and developer attitude, it is very different from the rest of GNOME. Many proprietary projects rely on forums and have never set up a mailing list, but at least they don't impose full-hardcore gamification on their users. I consider the imposition of gamification to be an extremely aggressive step, and by that I don't mean awards from junior to senior member, but that you can only use a feature like a pseudo mailing list once you reach a certain level, for example. The idea is to condition the users to use the forum and if a user gets the idea to try out the mailing list function, he will be offered a false, broken mailing list so that he will have a bad experience and crawl back to the forum, where there are tasty treats. For the GNOME project, a user is nothing more than a Pavlov's dog [3]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamification [2] https://discourse.gnome.org/ [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning
