why you don't use containers for that?
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024, 14:04 Peter Nabbefeld <peter.nabbefeld@xxxxxx> wrote:
Am 22.06.24 um 17:22 schrieb Peter Nabbefeld:
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> Am 22.06.24 um 17:13 schrieb Peter Nabbefeld:
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>> Am 28.04.24 um 14:51 schrieb Doug Newgard:
>>> On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 12:44:03 +0200
>>> Peter Nabbefeld <peter.nabbefeld@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 23.04.24 18:28, Doug Newgard wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 08:49:21 +0200
>>>>> Peter Nabbefeld <peter.nabbefeld@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as a Java developer, I sometimes need to do compatibility checking
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> older versions, often using JRE, while I need a JDK for development.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I tried to update arch linux now, I found I cannot start any
>>>>>> update
>>>>>> because the update is blocked by setting JRE and JDK as conflicting
>>>>>> packages. I tried to only install JDK 21, but the update is still
>>>>>> being
>>>>>> blocked because of my older versions of the JRE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do You block any software installation? I don't like the idea to
>>>>>> enforce me to use any specific software, or to remove any specific
>>>>>> one.
>>>>>> Is there any possibility to remove the lock-in?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>> There is no blocking or lock-in. First off, see
>>>>> https://archlinux.org/news/incoming-changes-in-jdk-jre-21-packages-may-require-manual-intervention/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> which now applies to some of the older versions as well.
>>>> Yes, I've read this already before. It clearly states what I've
>>>> written
>>>> about: If I have a JRE installed, I cannot install a JDK any more.
>>>> That's my problem: I do need different JDKs and JREs for testing
>>>> purposes.
>>>>
>>>>> Second, exact errors, always.
>>>> "jdk-openjdk and jre-openjdk are in conflict"
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Peter
>>> You didn't read very carefully then.
>>> "The JDK variant package includes the runtime environment to execute
>>> Java
>>> applications"
>> Probaly this is just not only readable in one direction? I've understood
>> this as "The JRE is not needed as the JDK contains one (internally)".
>> Probably I was wrong.
>>
>> However, I've installed these packages on my system:
>>
>> $ pacman -Ss openjdk | grep -i instal
>> extra/jdk-openjdk 22.0.1.u0-1 [Installiert: 20.0.1.u9-3]
>> extra/jdk11-openjdk 11.0.23.u9-1 [Installiert: 11.0.18.u10-2]
>> extra/jdk17-openjdk 17.0.11.u9-1 [Installiert: 17.0.6.u10-2]
>> extra/jdk21-openjdk 21.0.3.u9-1 [Installiert]
>> extra/jdk8-openjdk 8.412.u08-1 [Installiert: 8.372.u07-1]
>> extra/jre-openjdk 22.0.1.u0-1 [Installiert: 20.0.1.u9-3]
>> extra/jre-openjdk-headless 22.0.1.u0-1 [Installiert: 20.0.1.u9-3]
>> extra/jre11-openjdk 11.0.23.u9-1 [Installiert: 11.0.18.u10-2]
>> extra/jre11-openjdk-headless 11.0.23.u9-1 [Installiert: 11.0.18.u10-2]
>> extra/jre17-openjdk 17.0.11.u9-1 [Installiert: 17.0.6.u10-2]
>> extra/jre17-openjdk-headless 17.0.11.u9-1 [Installiert: 17.0.6.u10-2]
>> extra/jre8-openjdk 8.412.u08-1 [Installiert: 8.372.u07-1]
>> extra/jre8-openjdk-headless 8.412.u08-1 [Installiert: 8.372.u07-1]
>> extra/openjdk-doc 22.0.1.u0-1 [Installiert: 20.0.1.u9-3]
>> extra/openjdk-src 22.0.1.u0-1 [Installiert: 20.0.1.u9-3]
>> extra/openjdk11-src 11.0.23.u9-1 [Installiert: 11.0.18.u10-2]
>> extra/openjdk17-src 17.0.11.u9-1 [Installiert: 17.0.6.u10-2]
>> extra/openjdk8-src 8.412.u08-1 [Installiert: 8.372.u07-1]
>>
>> So, currently, no Java 21 or above. From what I've understood, these
>> packages shouldn't conflict with Java 21 and above, but it seems I have
>> to remove the older packages to get the newer ones ...
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Peter
>>
> Sorry for the German wording - of course, "Installiert" means
> "installed" in English. One additional point I found: I can update
> single packages using "pacman -S <package name>", but I cannot update
> the whole system using "pacman -Syu", so system upgrade seems to be
> broken.
>
> Regards,
> P.
Even trying to ignore the JDK-Updates does not work, using the following
entries in /etc/pacman.conf:
IgnorePkg = jdk9-openjdk jre9-openjdk jre9-openjdk-headless
openjdk9-doc openjdk9-src
IgnorePkg = jdk10-openjdk jre10-openjdk jre10-openjdk-headless
openjdk10-doc openjdk10-src
IgnorePkg = jdk11-openjdk jre11-openjdk jre11-openjdk-headless
openjdk11-doc openjdk11-src
IgnorePkg = jdk17-openjdk jre17-openjdk jre17-openjdk-headless
openjdk17-doc openjdk17-src
IgnorePkg = jdk20-openjdk jre20-openjdk jre20-openjdk-headless
openjdk20-doc openjdk20-src
IgnorePkg = jdk21-openjdk jre21-openjdk jre21-openjdk-headless
openjdk21-doc openjdk21-src
IgnorePkg = jdk22-openjdk jre22-openjdk jre22-openjdk-headless
openjdk22-doc openjdk22-src
Anything else I can do?
- P.
