On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 07:06:06 -0600 Doug Newgard <dnewgard@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 12:55:24 +0000 > pete <petegn@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > the problem is if you manually go into the directorys the files are there > > and are not zero length > > > > i checked that > > And yet both pacman and python say they are not there. What does > `ls -lR /usr/lib/python3.11/site-packages/gpg/` show? HUmmm this is getting silly now says the gpg directory is missing now i know why i do not like python so what package is the gpg setup . sorry this is getting a bit annoying now Pete