It turns out archinstall works on highlighting the cursor so for espeak users who turn on highlighting inside of archinstall, their use of the keyboard puts them in the places they need to be to use archinstall. Highlighting isn't often needed but when it is needed it does work. Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) .