While I don't think the problem is _as_ dramatic as you're making it to
be, there is definitely a reduction in activity for a time now. Even if
you compare the archives of arch-general this year vs 2019 you can see
an importand drop in the number of messages. Why this happened I don't
know and I'd rather not make any assumptions, but I'd hate to see Arch
lose momentum. I'm personally already looking for sponsors for my TU
application.
The GCC issue has been raised a few times, on the BBS and here, once by
myself a few days ago. However keep in mind that gcc is in core so you
could have all the TUs in the world, they wouldn't be able to do
anything. But yes, it would be nice to know what kind of difficulties
the devs are facing, technical or otherwise, and see if we can pitch in.
Best regards,
Vasi Vilvoiu
On 11/2/21 01:39, Billy Morgan via arch-general wrote:
Here are the Arch site package links without the 4chan referer, my b. I
also want to mention I'm not trying to single out and particular
maintainer/Trusted user. This seems to be a wide ranging problem. Let me
reiterate, we the community WANT TO HELP. If it's money, make a fundraiser
and we will donate. If it's hands/eyes that's out of our hands unless you
offload some of these packages to the AUR. We love Arch and want to see it
be the best it can be.
Have a good night everyone. I hope tomorrow leads to a better path in the
way of Arch.
https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/gcc/
<https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fgcc%2F>
https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/gcc-libs/
<https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fgcc-libs%2F>
https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/gcc-go/
<https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fgcc-go%2F>
https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/glibc/
<https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fglibc%2F>
https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/dhcpcd
<https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fdhcpcd%2F>
/
https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/binutils/
<https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fbinutils%2F>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: *Billy Morgan* <2021bmorgan@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, 1 November 2021
Subject: A plea for communication from Arch devs & maintainers
To: arch-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: *Billy Morgan* <2021bmorgan@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, 1 November 2021
Subject: A plea for communication from Arch devs & maintainers
To: arch-security@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Having far outdated packages is a security issue so I will include security
as well.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: *Billy Morgan* <2021bmorgan@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, 1 November 2021
Subject: A plea for communication from Arch devs & maintainers
To: anthraxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, aaron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, jvinet@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Today a post was made on the subreddit about a massive amount of packages
being flagged outdated a very long time ago. It was nuked almost
immediately and linked to an older thread with a non-answer. This cannot be
brushed under the rug. It is not just random packages that are far out of
date but even core ones.
https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/gcc/
<https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fgcc%2F>
https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/gcc-libs/
<https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fgcc-libs%2F>
https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/gcc-go/
<https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fgcc-go%2F>
https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/glibc/
<https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fglibc%2F>
https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/dhcpcd/
<https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fdhcpcd%2F>
https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/binutils/
<https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchlinux.org%2Fpackages%2Fcore%2Fx86_64%2Fbinutils%2F>
Even gnome-shell and others are far out of date.
Why are there still maintainers/Trusted Users that haven't been signed in
for 5 months holding packages hostage?
Please communicate with your userbase. We care and want to help.
See this thread. I was forced to move that persons post to 4chan because it
got nuked on the subreddit.
https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/84101500
Thank you
