Hi. This might be suited for the newbie corner, but I'm testing my luck with the mailing list for the first time. I can't remember if I've added the following to /etc/pam.d/system-login or not: auth required pam_tally2.so onerr=succeed file=/var/log/tallylog The reason why I'm asking is because after a system upgrade, that line has now disappeared. And I did not see anything on the archlinux bulletin board about a pam change. The tally logs still appear to update however, just not through the system-login config. Best wishes: Anton Hvornum