On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 at 17:33, Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 at 15:07, Archange <archange@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Le 04/12/2020 à 14:06, Emil Velikov via arch-general a écrit : > > > On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 12:55, Lone_Wolf <lone_wolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> > > >> On 04-12-2020 13:50, Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general wrote: > > >>> Em dezembro 4, 2020 9:27 Emil Velikov via arch-general escreveu: > > >>>> I would love to hear the input from the respective maintainers and the > > >>>> overall Arch developer base as a whole. > > >>>> > > >>> As the maintainer for both bumblebee and prime-run, I don't see the > > >>> need for deprecation, yet. > > >>> Bumblebee still has some uses and also, the it has the appeal of > > >>> keeping the card completely powered > > >>> off, something that doesn't happen with prime render offload. > > >>> > > >>> Having said that, I do think bumblebee/primus/primus_vk days are > > >>> numbered. > > >>> > > >>> Regards, > > >>> Giancarlo Razzolini > > >> > > >> For clarity : > > >> > > >> Does this affect people without an nvidia card ? > > >> > > >> Are users with an nvidia card that only use nouveau kernel module affected ? > > >> > > > There should be no user visible changes with my proposal - both GL and > > > VK should work as normal. The power management side of things is > > > completely unchanged. > > > > Regarding that last statement I’m not sure. Can you confirm that you can > > unload the nvidia modules in this configuration (using PRIME offloading > > with the proprietary driver through nvidia-prime)? > > > Should work fine, although cannot try it at the moment on my Intel/Nvidia box. > DId you try it and you're seeing issues or there's something in > particular which causes doubt? > > > If so we are definitively willing to integrate this in Bumblebee > > upstream, so that people with <Turing or <CoffeLake platform can still > > enjoy power management while finally getting the full power from their card. > > > With all respect to the Bumblebee project and it's developers, I think > the project is dead. > I love the upstream-first mentality, but with 7 local patches in Arch > and the last (merged) MR upstream from 2018 I'm not too hopeful. > I stand corrected - upstream have started to show signs the last two weeks. Apologies. -Emil
