On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 16:50:03 +0200, Geert Hendrickx via arch-general wrote: > Hi > > A number of packages depend on inetutils merely for the `hostname` command. > Common packages include xorg-xinit and mariadb, which makes that inetutils > is still installed on a large number of Arch systems, although its other > components like rcp, rsh, talk, telnet ... and their server counterparts, > are really old, deprecated, and totally insecure. Plus the implementation > seems to be largely abandoned by upstream (see FS#61041). Needless to say, > I don't want any of these installed on my systems. > > Since `hostname` is still somewhat common though, there are probably more > implicit dependencies on it, for example FS#66603. > > So I would like to eliminate dependencies on inetutils just for hostname, > in one of the following ways: > > 1/ Split the inetutils package and provide hostname as a sub-package (but > then still need to maintain inetutils) > > 2/ Package the Debian implementation, also used by Fedora and others (but > this includes other legacy shit like `nisdomainname` and `ypdomainname`) > See https://packages.qa.debian.org/h/hostname.html > > 3/ Use the implementation provided by gettext (/usr/lib/gettext/hostname), > which is already part of base, and thus eliminates the need for explicit > dependencies. Although this implementation can only *get* the hostname, > not *set* it, that's all the dependent packages need, and setting the > hostname is nowadays handled by systemd's `hostnamectl` anyway. > > My preference would be 3/, for simplicity. I already run my systems with > /usr/bin/hostname symlinked to /usr/lib/gettext/hostname (after forcibly > removing inetutils), and noticed no issues. Actually even better is 4/ avoid `hostname` as well (as it's not defined by POSIX), and use portale `uname -n` instead. I've created some requests with upstream projects including mariadb[1], testssl.sh[2], xorg-xinit[3], let's see. Geert [1] https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-23589 [2] https://github.com/drwetter/testssl.sh/pull/1707 [3] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/app/xinit/-/issues/18 -- geert.hendrickx.be :: geert@xxxxxxxxxxxx :: PGP: 0xC4BB9E9F This e-mail was composed using 100% recycled spam messages!
