That being the case, it may be time to switch to fenrir. On Sun, 22 Mar 2020, ITwrx wrote: > Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2020 11:51:38 > From: ITwrx <info@xxxxxxxxx> > Reply-To: General Discussion about Arch Linux <arch-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: arch-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: latest kernel update surprise > > On 3/22/20 8:28 AM, Piscium via arch-general wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 at 11:03, Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> 5.59-10 on the machine I use. I'm using a different version of linux on > >> another disk to write this message. > >> Strangely, both speaker-test and espeakup no longer work. The > >> speaker-test failure would of course > >> cover espeakup since espeakup uses sound card resources to do screen > >> reading. > >> Was anything done to the kernel to cause these failures? > > Before Arch I used Fedora for 7 years. I found Fedora far more stable > > than Arch when upgrading to a new Fedora version 3 months after > > release when most bugs have been fixed. With Arch there is always > > something that does not work properly and then days or weeks later it > > starts working again. It is not Arch's fault, rather it results from > > its KISS principle of making minimal or no changes to upstream > > packages so you get all the issues from upstream. Fedora does lots of > > patching and updates things less often so it is more stable than Arch. > > > > My suggestion is that if you are looking for reliability to use Debian > > Stable which has a big choice of packages and it stable, or else > > Fedora which is in between Debian Stable and Arch with respect to > > up-to-date packages and stability. Arch might not be the best distro > > for you. My ?0.02. > > i find Arch to be pretty stable, with one caveat: you have to use > upstream software that will keep up with the rest of the ecosystem to a > reasonable degree. I try not to use ancient software and only usually > have problems with maintained software where the upstream devs choose > the oldest lts distro they can find as their gnu+linux dev/support > target. I looked at the programs espeakup is connected with, and espeak > is from 2014, and the speakup download page was last modified in 2015. > > I suspect something finally quit working with modern gnu+linux, and not > so much Arch, in particular. All that being said, if you need really old > software, you may need a really old distro to run it on. > --
