On 02/05/2020 10:01 AM, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Hi David, > >> There must be another package that was updated that comes into play >> (python?). > How about restoring all packages to an earlier date? > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux_Archive#How_to_restore_all_packages_to_a_specific_date The last update on the Archlinux guest was 1/27/20 (5.4.15 kernel), I downgraded to 1/21/20 (5.4.13 kernel) and the problem remains. I know there is something totally broken as it takes the guest over 600 seconds (10 Minutes) to boot to a minimal console login. On 1/27/20 it booted fine when I updated to the 5.4.15 kernel. The only packages that got downgraded were: ca-certificates ca-certificates-mozilla ca-certificates-utils dbus 1.12.16-3 1.12.16-5 htop hwinfo imagemagick intel-tbb 2020.1-1 2020.0-1 libsecret 0.20.0-1 0.19.1-3 libutil-linux linux 5.4.13 5.4.15 linux-headers 5.4.13 5.4.15 nss p11-kit perl-timedate python python-six python2-cairo unace util-linux vim vim-runtime whois xfsprogs (I only typed the versions from the screenshot for the packages that seemed like they might be relevant) It's almost like some module or config was updated that broke something on the guest, so now it doesn't matter whether I downgrade or not, the problem remains. Most amazing frustrating problem I run into in a while. I was able to grad a dmesg output and the last 1000 lines of the packman.log, but I'm stumped. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.