Re: Feature Request: Adding Alternate Base Package

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The idea of a "base-extras" package containing the old base packages has already been discussed on arch-dev-public.

https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2019-October/029693.html

This implies that it's very likely to happen. :-)

On Oct 17, 2019, 8:02 AM -0400, arch-general-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, wrote:

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>     1. Feature Request: Adding Alternate Base Package Groups to
>     Installation Media (Ben Pont)
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>     Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 16:40:22 -0500
>     From: Ben Pont <benpont@xxxxxxxxx>
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>     Subject:  Feature Request: Adding Alternate Base Package
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>     With the recent transition from the base package group to the base meta
>     package, I was wondering whether or not it would be useful to include a
>     'base-typical' or 'base-standard' package group to the installation media.
>     The menu choices during an installation could possible be even more
>     expansive in its package group options, similar to how RHEL does it via
>     their 'environment' package groups (e.g. Minimal Install, Compute Node,
>     Infrastructure Server, GNOME Desktop, etc.).
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>     For example, each alternative package group could *include* the base meta
>     package, then add in the additional packages necessary for a particular use
>     case, (not least of which would be a kernel). The advantage would be that,
>     after installing the system, users would have the option to cherry pick
>     *out* unnecessary/unwanted packages from their chosen installation package
>     group, instead of having to cherry pick packages *into* their system as
>     would likely be necessary using only the base meta package. It seems like
>     many new and inexperienced users might become confused when they install a
>     new system using only the current base meta package and then realizing they
>     don't have the necessary tools they would normally assume comprises a base
>     installation (i.e. a kernel, editor, etc.).
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>     Additionally, 'pkgstats' could (at least temporarily) be included as a
>     dependency for both the base meta package and any optional base package
>     groups to get stats on how many users are solely installing the base meta
>     package versus the optional base package group alternatives. I'm guessing
>     only a minority of users would choose the base meta package as their sole
>     installation option, but it would probably be useful to know either way.
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