On 12/19/2018 05:57 PM, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Hi David, > > Robin wrote: >>> Is there anything else needed other than daemon-reexec when there is >>> an update to systemd itself? >> >> https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/systemd.install?h=packages/systemd#n80 > > You might be interested in what running process have deleted files still > open, perhaps because a package upgrade has installed a new version, or > caused a updated version to be generated. A quickly knocked together > pipeline I use is > > sudo -i lsof -n +c0 | > sed -n '1{p;d}; /DEL/{p;d}; / (deleted)$/{p;d}' | > egrep -v ' /(SYSV00000000|dev/shm/org\.(chromium\.......|mozilla\.ipc\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+)|memfd:pulseaudio|tmp/#[0-9]{5,7})\>' | > sed '1{h; d}; 2{x; G}' > > Not all the entries it shows matter, of course. It's up to the reader > to parse and, say, decide to restart postfix. > Robin, Ralph, Thanks. Glad to know it is already handled in post_upgrade(). Interesting use of lsof and the parse of files open. Most of the Arch systems I have running are servers, so it is fairly easy just to scan the upgrade list and note which applications I need to restart. The interesting part is that I have religiously done 'daemon-reload' if I noticed any running unit files updated. Since post_upgrade() calls daemon-reexex -- I don't even need to do that anymore if systemd is among the ugrades :) It may be worth adding to the systemd wiki page. It is silent about daemon-reexec and the fact that is called with post_upgrade(). (it's there in the PKGBUILD, and the post_install output "Reloading system manager configuration...", but I didn't snap to the fact that "reloading" was doing the reexec) Learning has occurred. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.