> ---------------------------------------- > From: Levente Polyak <anthraxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Mon Sep 10 18:42:14 CEST 2018 > To: Geo Kozey <geokozey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: General Discussion about Arch Linux <arch-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: AppArmor support > > I think you are totally missing the point, everyone can happily debug, > bisect and get proper crash information. The problem is reporting > upstream, which won't be accepted if you use anything but a vanilla > kernel (which hardened isn't as it provides custom patches). > > If you want to approach upstream then reproducing the same thing on the > vanilla kernel is the only option you have, otherwise it will be rejected. > > cheers, > Levente > Nope. Not everyone can happily debug and bisect if every bug causes panic and forced reboot of their machine. As a person who reported dozen of bugs (mostly upstream specific but some of them can be found only with linux-hardened - all of them fixed) and who tests every rc kernel with linux-hardened patch and several others patches on top of it, I can tell you that none valid report will be rejected. Of course I don't report issues with linux-hardened patch itself upstream. I have to admit that if I haven't disabled myself CONFIG_PANIC_ON_OOPS I would give up long time ago. Yours sincerely G. K.