Hi, I noticed that you have got a "archlinux.org" email address. I struggled with myself and then decided to send a copy of Eli's email off-list to you. I received a _signed_ message off-list from Eli. FWIW I never was banned from any community. Seemingly I'm important enough to Eli to write this off-list email. The most important sentence of his off-list email IMO is "I care more about Arch than I do about myself...". A Claim like this, in combination with fantasies about intelligence and standards is psychopathologic. Regards, Ralf Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 11:19:38 -0400 From: Eli Schwartz <eschwartz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Ralf Mardorf <silver.bullet@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: update today causes avantfax_hourly cron: Exec format error? On 8/27/18 10:04 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 03:02:38PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> Eli, wouldn't it be easier for you to ignore people who are not as >>> wise and psychologically balanced as you are? I doubt that anybody >>> of us is able to learn from your wise comments, more likely we laugh >>> at you, because we are psychically disturbed and dumb, so we don't >>> know better. I would be more than happy with a different result: having your access to our community revoked. I have no interest in you, Ralph Mardorf, ever learning anything from me. You're a legend, or should I say an infamy, on... more than one part of the internet, and merely by existing you turn our forums into a cesspit. As you have already done in other Linux communities... and been banned for. > Take a look at the Archive. If Eli is mistaken, he is unable to admit > that he is You're not nearly important enough either as an Arch user or as a human being, for me to hunt up the examples that prove you wrong. Either way, I'm not ashamed of being right more often than I'm wrong. > and even if he isn't mistaken, often half of the content > of his replies contain implied self-adulation by some kind of > manipulative disregard of other personalities. I care more about Arch than I do about myself, but either way, I'm pretty sure you're confusing the idea of someone not backing down when they are in fact right, but have been Ralphed (attacked by Ralph Mardorf, it's an official thing in the communities you've crossed), for being a "manipulative personality". The truth is that I merely manipulated myself into not caring what you say. > I'm very, very seldom > disturbed by any kind of criticism, It's not a coincidence that 4chan trolls are never bothered by criticism, but rather, thrive off of conflict and the slinging of mud. They delight in twisting the facts until they can accuse their unfortunate victims of being the aggressor. As such, they, and you, derive twisted pleasure from receiving criticism. > I only try to make Eli aware that > several subscribers are making jokes about him, if he again makes a > fool out of himself. Sure, I'm speaking for myself, this doesn't mean > that I'm not aware of other subscribers' opinions. Sometimes people > are writing emails off-list. In the extremely unlikely event that anyone whose opinions I respect have a joke to make about me, they will direct their witticisms to me in person. I do not care what you have to say about me, though, because I don't respect your opinion in any way. Your belief in what makes me "a fool" is very different from Arch Linux community standards, and the standards of most thoughtful, intelligent people, of which you are neither. >> Besides, for anyone knowledgeable it would always be easier to ignore >> other less knowledgeable people... But you see where this would end >> up. > > Not really and I wasn't talking about knowledge, I was talking about > wisdom and psychologically balance. Except, that really, really is the problem here. > Consider to reread Eli's brilliant achievement of wisdom and online > psychotherapy: [...] It's hardly brilliant, or an achievement, or even psychotherapy. I basically just said that someone who does not know how to handle the Arch Linux principles as described here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux#User_centrality should consider using a Linux distribution more in line with their needs and approaches. That goes for you too, but in your case I would object that your personality is an additional disqualifier. -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User