On February 25, 2018 2:51 AM, Eli Schwartz via arch-general <arch-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 02/24/2018 09:18 PM, Adam Levy via arch-general wrote: > > > Hello > > > > Today I noticed that as of about 30ish days ago godep ( > > > > github.com/tools/godep) has been archived and is no longer supported. The > > > > go dev team recommends using dep (github.com/golang/dep) instead. > > > > As Arch strives to be as up to date as possible I suggest removing godep > > > > from the official repos and potentially moving dep into the official repos > > > > from the AUR. The AUR dep package appears to be well maintained. > > > > Relevant links: > > > > https://github.com/tools/godep > > > > https://github.com/golang/dep > > > > https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/dep/ > > So because it has been dropped 30 days ago, we should delete it from our > > repos without first checking to see, I dunno, whether any other packages > > in the repos depend on it? No thanks. > > Nothing is stopping us from shipping both packages. For that matter, > > nothing is stopping us from shipping neither... > > Arch does not ship golang ecosystem tools because we have some sort of > > fundamental goal to ship golang. We don't ship golang itself because > > we have some fundamental goal to ship golang. > > We ship it because Arch developers either use/want it, or use/want > > software that depends on it. Happily, that goal coincides with the > > ability to support popular programming languages... but do you think we > > would force someone who doesn't like golang, to maintain the thing just > > so we can have it in the repos? No, at best we would (try to) look to > > sponsor a TU who cares. > > By the same extension we won't blacklist software that is currently > > maintained by a TU, that people use, that at least one package in the > > repos has a makedepends on, just because the upstream developers have > > decided that the software can and should be replaced by a newer, better > > tool. Currently it is a violation of the Arch packaging rules to delete > > godep even if we want to... > > (That being said, terraform probably shouldn't makedepend on it, and > > I've pointed that out to the maintainer.) > > > As Arch strives to be as up to date as possible > > We achieve that goal by providing the latest version of godep, thereby > > ensuring that godep is up to date. > > Determining which is the best tool to use is a choice for upstream projects. > > Quite frankly we have more than enough ancient software that is > > legitimately at the latest version a dead upstream provides, to rebut > > your argument. Just because software is old, or not recommended by its > > own devs, does not mean it isn't useful. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Eli Schwartz > > Bug Wrangler and Trusted User I guess Adam request should be sent to package mantainer instead of public list but other than that it's legit and I don't see the point of public rant about it. It doesn't help anyone. Jordan
