Hi, I have asked quite a few questions here myself, and received excellent guidance and help. I was in no way trying to imply the superiority of one tool over another, or of keyboard over mouse. Was just trying to add something (helpful?) to this conversation based on what I knew. It turns out what I thought to be 'network manager is not actually the network manager, as exlained by Mr Eli. Thanks for the explanation. No offence meant. And none taken. Peace. On 01/12/2018 07:57 PM, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > On 01/12/2018 08:48 AM, Foxtrot Mike via arch-general wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I use arch with i3wm. Been using for around 3 years. Still lovin it. >> Dont really need a network manager when netctl can handle my wifi pretty >> nicely. Actually I prefer typing over mouse-ing, so I would always >> prefer a tool like netctl over mouse-driven tools such as network manager. > Please keep in mind that NetworkManager is primarily a backgrounded > daemon, with two CLI reference frontends -- nmtui and nmcli. > > network-manager-applet, which most people think of as "NetworkManager", > is actually a thirdparty GUI for NetworkManager, developed by some of > the same people as a separate project. Said GUI is not even installed > with networkmanager, it is a completely separate package that *depends* > on networkmanager. > > Please learn more about your system/tools before passing judgment on them. >