On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 17:47:19 +0000, Jonathon Fernyhough wrote: >On 09/12/17 17:31, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 17:19:22 +0000, Jonathon Fernyhough wrote: >>> Just because something was "done" two years ago doesn't mean there's >>> not a better way of doing it. >> >> I guess you read [1] and [2]. > >Yes. > >Two people reply to the list who use or package their own alternative >version because of the aggro of suggesting changes to packages when, >e.g., upstream might not care or upstream's decisions might not be a >one-size-fits-all. > >While this is devolving into >https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Code_of_conduct#Ineffective_discussion_.28.22bikeshed.22.29, >if people are actually afraid to post I'd suggest that might be >something to look at. > > >J > >(Yes, I'm done now ;) As already pointed out off-list. Take things with a good sense of black humour! C'mon! It's nearly impossible to find a more useless default, than the PID 1 systemd tree and without the slightest doubt everybody is aware of this.