2017-07-24 9:36 GMT+02:00 Junayeed Ahnaf via arch-general <arch-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > All fine and good but I don't see arch being installed on something > other than desktop/laptop. Of course there are niche cases as arch > server I do not doubt but how much of arch install base is traditional > desktop? I think it's rather high. I currently have 8 Arch machines, 5 of which are pure servers and 2 are server/desktop hybrids, one is an aging laptop which barely runs anything with a GUI. None have NM installed, most use Connman , the others 'just work' and need nothing more than the basics already there. I'm obviously not alone in finding Arch suitable for many purposes other than a desktop machine, as indicated by other replies. > > On 07/24/2017 01:30 PM, ITwrx.org wrote: >> On 07/24/2017 12:30 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf via arch-general wrote: >>> Why is there no NetworkManager in ArchISO? >> Arch Linux is not like desktop focused distributions. Therefore, it's >> ISO does not come with "everything but the kitchen sink" where you have >> a turn-key desktop after running a GUI installer or install script. It >> has the base set of software you need to assemble what you need for your >> given install target. >> >>> Isn't it widely accepted as >>> the go to method of connecting to internet in Linux? >> No, not in general like that. Network manager is primarily used for >> network management with desktop environments, most commonly Gnome, as >> the other respondent noted. Arch Linux is used in many different ways, >> not only for the desktop. >> >>> Is there any reason >>> for it not to be default? >> The defaults for the ISO would generally be the simpler options, and >> less likely to be something large with a lot of dependencies. Also, >> minimalist ISOs were the norm rather than the exception in years past >> and for Reasons. They still are in some cases or with some distros. >> Also, there are not always application defaults with Arch Linux like you >> might have with a desktop distro. Arch is "DIY/build your own and choose >> your own defaults (for the most part)" type of distro. >
