After the recent dicsussion(s) around this topic I thought it worthwhile to go through where things stand. I went through all the packages flagged out of date on the website and focused on what I viewed as the "more important" ones (this is IMHO of course ... I'm sure others have differnt views). Regardless of how out of date a package is, if a new package was in testing I did not include it here. Of those that passed my sufficiently important filter: I found only 2 packages more than 1 week old and 3 less than a week - 2 of which were released upstream today. One is more than 9 months out of date (refind-efi). Here's what I found orderd most out of date at the top.. refind-efi - Arch vesion 0.9.2 as of 9/22/2015 - Upstream has 0.10.3 from 4/24/2016 - this one is very out of date - - be good to have this updated. openssl - Arch has 1.0.2.h - Out of date as of 8/25/2016 - 1.1.0 was released upstream on 8/25/2016 dkms - Out of date as of 9/1/2016 - Arch Package website refers to dell.com should be changed to https://github.com/dell/ util-linux - 2.28.2 was released today - - arch has 2.28.1 released 8/11/2016 linux - 4.7.3 is out of date as of today -- Gene lists@xxxxxxxxxxxx