Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Take a look at > https://specifications.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-latest.html , > it should be your desktop environment that is auto starting. Thanks, but I tried that weeks ago. It is not the autostart feature of the desktop environment that is starting gnome-keyring. From what I can figure out, it is lightdm that is starting gnome-keyring. What's doubly annoying is that gnome-keyring stays alive after I log out, meaning that the systemd login session is never terminated. This can cause some bizarre issues when logging in again. In fact, my day-to-day "desktop environment" (Window Maker) doesn't even support xdg autostart, so I know autostart is not the culprit. (I am starting programs in the xprofile.) Given the bizarre integration bugs that gnome-keyring brings, I would rather just remove it entirely for now: 1. Seahorse can run without gnome-keyring running in the background. Why is there a hard dependency? 2. virt-manager runs fine when gpg-agent handles SSH keys. Why do I need to have its dependency x11-ssh-askpass installed? --Kyle
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