--- On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:26:15 +0000 Jayesh Badwaik <archlinux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote ---- On Tuesday, 22 March 2016 09:00:28 IST Jan Alexander Steffens wrote: > I hardly look at the wiki anymore, but I remember getting the same > impression—most recently I had to hunt through multiple pages about > encryption to get even a basic setup going. > > This is a problem. Initially, when the wiki was small, a page would have a small section, with instructions to get a basic system running. Now, probably as the wiki has grown more comprehensive, it is becoming more and more reference-based and the tutorial like properties are disappearing. May be it would nice if people would start writing tutorial like articles for simple enough uses. For example see [1]. -- Cheers Jayesh Badwaik [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Simple_stateful_firewall Exactly. It almost looks like it's done on purpose, to obfuscate information as much as possible. This would neatly reflect the elitist mindset of many arch users one comes across on the internet. My prime example is the 'Beginners Guide' from the wiki; I have an old version from around July 2015 as an installation checklist, to prevent me from forgetting any important steps. Thank $DEITY i have that printed on paper. Today it's completely watered down and littered with links. That guide is, as the name suggests, for 'beginners'. Many explanations have been stripped or are hidden behind links. You can't just print it, start the installation and be done in 30 minutes. No, now you either need a second machine to 'browse' the wiki or memorise the whole process. I'm afraid your suggestion to write tutorial like articles may appear too 'Ubuntu-esque' for some wiki editors...