> > It's ok now not because of the wiki and the AUR, but thanks to the > > existence of systemd-free.org. It had to be created because of the > > above, which would'nt have happened with a better community. > > So far I've not seen anyone in this thread, or in the replies by Poettering > referenced by systemd-free.org as "Arrogance and crappy attitude", actually > pressure anyone into doing (or not doing) anything. > Choices have been made based on what those making the choices think is > sane, and you are free to undo that choice at any time. > What/who in "the community" motivates even having this endless discussion > when the (in MHO excellent) choice to package systemd by default has > already been made and it works perfectly well? I never said systemd shouldn't be packaged by default! > If something was removed from the Wiki for "no good reason", just add it > back, or put systemd-free.org up as a reference and be done with it. Someone already talked about putting it back in the forums. They were turned down because of those points («no reason for 2 methods», etc.). This among other things (which are evident in any discussion in Arch about OpenRC) signals a bad community. There were many great users that stopped using Arch because of this, it is a problem that needs to be recognized. I don't anything near this kind of attitude, say, in Gentoo mailing lists. João Miguel
