On 28-04-2015 21:39, Guus Snijders wrote: > Op 28 apr. 2015 21:04 schreef "Bardur Arantsson" <spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >> >> On 28-04-2015 20:39, Daniel Micay wrote: >>>> People forget vi(1) is part of POSIX so required on "systems that both >>>> support the User Portability Utilities option and define the >>>> POSIX2_CHAR_TERM symbol." [ > http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/ >>>> ] >>>> [...] >>> It's great to have vim-minimal on the install media (which is now the >>> case), but that doesn't mean it needs to be in base. >>> >> >> Indeed, AFAICT the only important thing to consider here is whether the >> booted system is "fixable" from within itself if you forgot to install >> something during the boot from install media. (E.g. by forgetting to >> install *some* editor or other. Everybody likes different editors, but >> "nano" will do until you can install something better.) > > A very nice thing about having vi installed by default, is that you don't > have to think about which editors are available. It's a unix(y) system, so > vi just works. No need to remember if it's nano/pico/whatever on this > specific distro. > It's easy enough to add one's favorite editor when installing. > > On Windows, for example, i assume notepad is available, Word etc are > optional (though I usually keep (g)vim on systems I use often). > Oh, indeed, but frankly I never bothered learning vi beyond "<ESCESCESCESC>:q!"[1], so I think an editor (like nano) that displays the obvious commands should be kept as a part of a base install. (I don't object to vi being installed by default, btw.) [1] I like C-xC-s much better, because -- obviously -- it's objectively better :p Regards,
