On 26 April 2015 at 00:24, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, 25 Apr 2015 23:55:32 +0200, Neven Sajko wrote: >>On 25 April 2015 at 19:36, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>wrote: >>> On Sat, 25 Apr 2015 17:51:10 +0200, Neven Sajko wrote: >>>> nano >>> >>> IMO nano should be part of base. Other editors might have advantages >>> over nano, but to set up config files, it's on of the most easiest to >>> use editors. It's my default editor, because you don't get a >>> tendonitis and you don't need to learn billions of shortcuts and a >>> strange language to configure the editor, IOW it's not like Emacs >>> and it's also not like the two modes Vi/m, "beep repeatedly" and >>> "break everything". Sure, for coders those editors have their >>> advantages, but to set up an install nano is a good choice, because >>> it can be used by everybody. Perhaps by default an improved nanorc >>> should be provided. >> >>I didn't use nano much but I'm pretty sure you could edit text faster >>in MS Word, >>so I cannot imagine any scenario in which it should be used. >>If you don't know how to use anything better you should probably learn >>ASAP. > > Mentioning a Windows office suite is polemic. Even a lot of us *nix > users nowadays are using GUI editors, Sublime text, Pluma, Atom editor, > Gvim etc. for tasks an editor usually is used for, unlikely for > editing office work. For some tasks a GUI isn't an option, usually for > editing simple config files something as Nano can be used by nearly > everybody. Most of us for sure are aware how to use Vi too. I prefer to > get Nano when e.g. running visudo, but sure, I'm able to use Vi/m too. > > I'm not an editor war guy. There's nothing wrong with Emacs and Vi/m, > but there's also nothing wrong with easy to use, self explaining > editors such as Nano, mcedit etc., even while Vi is a standard. > > Why not providing an easy to use self explaining editor such as Nano? > You don't benefit from a "better" editor for this task. Why should > people learn how to use oldish editors, they never need for simple > tasks, when we nowadays have much easier, self-explaining editors, > such as nano? > > Do you seriously consider > $ pacman -Qi nano | grep Size > Installed Size : 2.05 MiB > in base as an issue? 2.05 MiB that make live for many users much easier. > > Regards, > Ralf Having nano installed wouldn't bother me much, but I think that if it prevents people from using faster editors it is probably not beneficial.
