On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Steven Grace <sgrace@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > All I'm trying to find out is how to diagnose this module problem further. I > know that module snd_seq_midi is part of the "linux" package but I don't > know what process used to add the module automatically; was it the Linux > kernel, or ALSA, or something else? I think the change is a regression and > I'd like it to be fixed but I don't know what package is responsible and > would like to know how to find out. Thanks. In general - when the hardware scan is triggered on boot (second phase, not initramfs) it probes your hardware and looks for modules that deal with the device. The udev subsytem is basically a fancy ruleset on the messagebus - it listens for events and performs actions in /dev. (this is grossly oversimplified, just work with me here :) ) It's the 2.6+ successor to hotplug and devfs. Your system should be booting and finding a sound card; this triggers the subsystem "sound" to load, which in turn triggers udev; take a look in /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules and you'll find this stanza: SUBSYSTEM=="sound", GROUP="audio", \ OPTIONS+="static_node=snd/seq", OPTIONS+="static_node=snd/timer" A double-equals means compare, a single means assign (so it's not all loose like bash, there is a strict interpretation) and as expected += means add to. So when sound is detected, the udev tree should create two device nodes -- /dev/snd/seq and /dev/snd/timer with group 'audio'. Does this happen on your machine, are you getting /dev/snd/seq created from a fresh boot? If you are, then that means the problem feels like it's in the seq subsystem[1] -- when that node is created the core module (snd-seq) should load as it's hooked into it and "see" your midi sequencer out of this new device node and do the needful; but if you're not getting this device node created, then it feels like the sound system isn't triggering in udev correctly. You could of course correct the failure with a simple .conf file over in /etc/modprobe.d/ but you're clearly interested in determining the actual root cause. Hope this helps! I know little about the sound subsystem (I push play, I get music :) ), but deal with udev for storage and network devices quite a bit. You may find it valuable to read this article, IMHO it's quite a good writeup: http://www.linux.com/news/hardware/peripherals/180950-udev -te [1] https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/sound/core/seq