The thread about the postgresql update reminded me of one of the few things about Ubuntu that I miss: package updates usually included a useful changelog entry describing what was fixed and/or new. Perhaps I assume too much, but I imagine Arch package maintainers would generally be aware of the changes in an update they're making, and so it wouldn't be much additional work to include that information in a changelog entry. When I first started using Arch I'd hoped "pacman -Qc" would do this, but at this point only three of the 867 packages on my system have a changelog, and most of those entries are just "version bump" or equivalent. Carl