On Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:47:05 +0100 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:09:19 -0600, Eli Schwartz wrote: > > Well, you could at least actually quote what I really said: > > > > "[...] it was a straightforward change with absolutely no impact" > > ... now wait for it :) ... > > "beyond the impact of running makepkg --asroot by hand instead of by > > proxy." > > > > I was, of course, referring solely to the nature of that change as > > it regards yaourt and the yaourt maintainer needing to discuss the > > change with the devs. > > Which is to say, this change does not affect yaourt in any > > appreciable way, and the people it does affect... will be affected > > without bringing yaourt into the discussion. > > > > I have absolutely no opinion on people wishing to run "makepkg > > --asroot", that is absolutely your right and I wish you much luck in > > finding a suitable workaround or convincing the pacman developers of > > its merits or whatever you like. > > Because I have no opinion on whether or not it is a legitimate need, > > or when it might or might not be a need with extra legitimacy behind > > it... beyond observing that I have never used it, myself, > > personally. > > For my taste pacman is the best package management I know. It still > is, after a makepkg option was dropped. I'm a yaourt user and can't > notice any difference, since I usually run yaourt without root > privileges. Sometimes I run makepkg as root, but it's no issue for me > to run it without root privileges, it indeed is smarter to do it that > way. > > The attitude to ignore the Linux ecosystem all in all, that became a > fashion a while ago is disgusting. The way to diss software > contributed by others, the way to disgrade other users who might have > less knowledge, who might belong to a minority is outrageous. Reducing > "community" to people who contribute to Linux is alarming. FLOSS is > based on public-spirited world views. Dropping backwards compatibility > within a major release (for a ".dot" release) is ignorant. The tone of > voice and no willingness to care about others, including minorities is > embarrassing. How in the world do "minorities" have anything to do with anything in this thread?