> However, I like that Linus Torvalds made some clear statements to the > careless, ignorant systemd and dbus crowed, while he's not against > systemd and dbus, just against the new attitudes. Writing good software is hard. Providing the developers of that software with concrete examples of use cases that `--asroot` provided may be useful to them. Providing patches may be useful. Asking for semantic versioning to be more strictly followed may be useful. Pointing out the value of backward compatibility (and then acknowledging that maintaining backward compatibility has a cost) may be useful. It is _not_ useful to then drag in systemd, dbus, Linus Torvalds, Red Hat, Johannes Löthberg, FLOSS philosophy and more. I'll re-read my copy of Hackers if I want to reminisce about the good old days of software development as it was in 1977 and enjoy a few good Ad Hominems. Please, let's aim for a constructive conversation. That's why I subscribe to this mailing list. —Jeremy