Hi, On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 07:20:42PM -0600, Troy Engel wrote: > On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Daniel Micay <danielmicay@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Arch currently uses optional dependencies even when it means that > > executables provided by the package aren't going to work with the > > minimal set of dependencies. The packages could be split up more to > > avoid this without pulling in more stuff, but it's not what packagers > > usually choose to it. It's a design choice left up to the packager, not > > a bug. > > Thank you - tribal knowledge that wasn't written down as an acceptable > standard to the Arch packaging. I have added your first sentence to a > note (and credited you in the comment) so that it's not tribal > anymore: > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PKGBUILD#optdepends Just because something is written in a wiki doesn't make it rational.... > The reason this is complicated is anyone who comes into Arch from > (most) other distros where this is considered a bug needs to > understand Arch doesn't work by the same rules as all the others for > binary shared library resolution. I disagree with the SOP, but can > leave my opinion at the door. Well, other distros following certain packaging guidelines doesn't imply that Arch should follow them as well. If you subscribe e.g. to fedora-devel you'll see how much more complicated compared to Arch the packaging process in Fedora is (and this process is faaaar from perfect). And I am not even talking about Debian... There is a tradeoff of complexity vs some "breakage". So it's not about you agreeing or not with the status quo, it's about contributing a more rational alternative than the existing PKGBUILD. In your jasper bugreport, it would have helped if you provided a PKGBUILD with split-packages, like jasper-base and jasper-jiv with proper "conflicts" and "provides". At least that's what I would do... Cheers, -- Leonid Isaev GPG fingerprints: DA92 034D B4A8 EC51 7EA6 20DF 9291 EE8A 043C B8C4 C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D
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