Thomas Bächler wrote in message <543579D1.4010902@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > I don't care what upstream recommends, there is no reason for this > target to exist and there is no reason to use it. Things get even worse, > since you cannot order the unit After=something - since timers.target > pulls the unit, it gets an implicit ordering Before=timers.target, > removing lots of flexibility with regards to ordering (since > timers.target is before sysinit.target). I don't really care about timers.target, but shouldn't the dependency be put in the corresponding services files rather than in the timers? I personally see timers as similar to sockets files, essentially trivial to launch, all the work being done in the services files.