On 26 September 2014 16:34, Doug Newgard <scimmia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 2014-09-26 09:29, Maarten de Vries wrote: > >> On 26 September 2014 16:25, Doug Newgard <scimmia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Wrong, they DO call bash by name. The main issues are with ssh, which uses >>> the user's specified interactive shell, and with Apache's mod_cgi and >>> mod_cgid, which do call bash. Again, stop providing non-existent FUD and >>> give real-world examples of where having /bin/sh linked to something else >>> would have mitigated this. >>> >> >> >> >> Some programs may call bash by name, but many will just use system() and >> get bash without asking for it. >> >> From man 3 system: >> >> The system() library function uses fork(2) to create a child process that >> >>> executes the shell command specified in command using execl(3) as >>> follows: execl("/bin/sh", "sh", "-c", command, (char *) 0); >>> >>> > Instead of theorizing that "many" will do this, give a real world example > of where this happens and would have reduced the attack surface of the bug > in question. So you do not find "any program that calls system()" specific and scary enough? I do.