On Thursday 21 Aug 2014 13:40:48 Leonid Isaev wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:56:06AM -0500, Bigby James wrote: > > > > It seems this is just a change in the default settings, nothing more. > > > > > > I know, but not everyone follows systemd-devel. So, just updating > > > systemd would lead to syslog "mysteriously" not logging anything... > > > > Sure, *if* you didn't already explicity set journald to use an external > > logging daemon. If you did, then the update is just going to create a > > *.pacnew file that can be deleted. In other words, the problem is > > improper configuration on the part of the user, not impropriety on the > > part of upstream. > > > > I use syslog-ng myself, and it seems to me that if I'm going to be > > deviating from the defaults set by upstream and the Arch devs then it > > falls to me to pay > Using syslog-ng is not "deviating from the defaults". So far the default was > to send things to _a_ syslog -- no modification of journald.conf was > required (check the old manpages). If I remember correctly, when the switch to systemd was first made, the migration guide on the wiki did in fact talk the user through forwarding the journal to syslog-ng by modifying some config files. Paul