I am way past confused about these issues. I have installed Archlinux on a partition, with a home partition. I just cannot boot into it. I was able to boot into the USB flash drive. I never saw any messages about UEFI or legacy. I had already installed Ubuntu 2014.04, botched the partitioning, but it is possible to boot into it by way of a kludge that my 12 year old son discovered when he installed Ubuntu on his Lenovo Idea Pad: by backing out, each windows boot, into a boot menu that has the Ubuntu setup listed. The ubuntu setup was installed as if by magical accident. It just installed. I hed checked if it is a UEFI system by running a command in Windows: it is. After installing Ubuintu, I disabled secure boot. I have more interesting things to do than spend a week to try to understand this convoluted maze of acronyms and permutations of features. It took me years to get used to GRUB2 having a complicated web of editable (thought almost unreadable, to me) files and scripts. This goes waaaay betong that. I appreciate the efforts of the people here on the Arch Linux mailing list to help. I will certainly ask more questions when I get the nerve to try again (or grow tired of Ubuntu again). I need a complicated series of capabilities, so perhaps the fact that they mostly work ok under Ubuntu is a blessing, and the Arch experiment will come later. Alan Davis On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Mark Lee <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 05/02/2014 02:09 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > > Thank you for the several comments. > > > > I don't see any smaller boot menu button. And this ultrabook has no CD > > drive. I was able to boot the Arch iso, and install right up to the > Boot > > Manager step. If I could boot straight into that partition from a USB > > drive, that would be great. > > > > Several times I have stumbled into nooks and crannies, where, for > example, > > that USB flash drive booted right up. > > > > This is on my agenda, in the near future. RIght now I'm reading up on > > these multiple issues. > > > > Alan > > > > > > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Mark Lee <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On 05/02/2014 12:17 AM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > >>>> I am boot the arch May 1 2014 iso off of a usb flash drive. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Doug Newgard <scimmia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 2014-05-01 20:18, Mark Lee wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Salutations, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If you set up your efistub correctly, you will be able to boot Arch > or > >>>>>> Windows using the Uefi boot manager, same system as how you get the > >>>>>> option to boot off a USB stick. UEFI removes the needs for boot > >>>>>> managers. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Man k > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: "Alan E. Davis" <lngndvs@xxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>> Sent: 5/1/2014 9:09 PM > >>>>>> To: "General Discussion about Arch Linux" < > arch-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on > >>>>>> aWindows8 UEFI laptop > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have never seen an option to boot the Arch iso using eufi boot. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I may not have said that I want to dual boot. I do need to do so. > If > > I > >>>>>> boot directly back into Arch, will there be an option do dual boot? > >>>>>> (Actually triple boot for the time being.) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Alan Davis > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Mark Lee <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Salutations, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Okay. Try starting ove again. Boot into the arch iso using uefi > boot > >>>>>>> (preferably but not necessary). Then set up your partitions (root, > > home). > >>>>>>> For boot, mount the windows EFI system partition as /boot. Then > > install > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> system. You won't need to install grub or gummiboot since you can > boot > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> efistub directly. I would create a folder in /boot named "arch". I > > would > >>>>>>> then copy the *.img from /boot to /boot/arch and rename the > > vmlinuz-Linux > >>>>>>> to vmlinuz-linux.efi. If you booted into uefi mode from the Arch > iso, > > you > >>>>>>> should be able to run efibootmgr. Run efibootmgr to see what > entries > > you > >>>>>>> have (you should at least have the windows entry). Then type > something > >>>>>>> like > >>>>>>> this : efibootmgr -d <efi disk id ( probably /dev/sda) -p > <parition # > >>>>>>> (probably 1> -L "Arch Linux UEFI" -l /arch/vmlinux-Linux.efi -u > >>>>>>> "root=<location of root> initramfs=/arch/initramfs.img rw quiet" > -w. > > You > >>>>>>> should be able to reboot if all went well and you will boot into > Arch > >>>>>>> Linux. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Mark > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>> From: "Alan E. Davis" <lngndvs@xxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>> Sent: 5/1/2014 8:07 PM > >>>>>>> To: "General Discussion about Arch Linux" < > arch-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu > on a > >>>>>>> Windows8 UEFI laptop > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I don't understand what is the entry, or fallback entry, or "run > the > >>>>>>> entry." I'm sorry. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm going to try again later. In fact, I may take the undesireable > > step > >>>>>>> of > >>>>>>> installing from Manjaro or whatever is the shortcut way to install > > Arch > >>>>>>> Linux these days. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On the one hand, I don't care to learn about what's Micro$oft's > latest > >>>>>>> tortuous trick it has played on the users; and on the other hand, > I do > >>>>>>> value to learn the nuts and bolts of GNU/Linux. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thank you very much. I am willing to give it one more try. I > might > > even > >>>>>>> try to install grub in a partition, as apparently is what Ubuntu > has > >>>>>>> done. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thank you again, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Alan Davis > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Daniel Micay < > danielmicay@xxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 01/05/14 07:40 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > >>>>>>>>> I took a chance, and nothing happened. I installed gummiboot on > >>>>>>> /boot, > >>>>>>>>> where the kernel was. But I didn't move the ubuntu kernel over. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> In the end, Windows still booted, and I was able to get back to a > >>>>>>> boot > >>>>>>>> menu > >>>>>>>>> from there, and boot ubuntu. Not Arch. Yet. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you for now. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Alan > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> You need to explicitly run the entry (if you had the EFI stuff > > mounted) > >>>>>>>> or the fallback entry (if you didn't). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> Would you stop breaking the thread? This is the third time you've > broken > >>>>> this thread alone. > >>>>> > >>>>> Not to mention top posting, but I'm not sure if there's a policy on > that > >>>>> here. > >>>>> > > > > Salutations, > > > > The last time I checked, I had issues with booting UEFI Arch Linux iso > > off a usb stick. Try a cd if you can. > > > > Regards, > > Mark > >> > > Salutations, > > If you can install grub on a usb stick point and write an entry for Arch > Linux in grub that'd work. > > Meanwhile, do you have an external usb cd/dvd drive? You could try using > that if you do. > > Regards, > Mark > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) > > iF4EAREIAAYFAlNj360ACgkQZ/Z80n6+J/a6qgD9Hj3I672rM4rvTyFQpPXDaziW > 93te0TD0GYUNXILVCYYA/3ew4bB+OopDHHnGFR1v8B+WnR+Mb7EjNtA31pCN4mlo > =WPDt > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >
