On 02/10/2014 05:16 PM, Jeremy Nicoll - ml archlinux wrote: > WorMzy Tykashi <wormzy.tykashi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On 11 February 2014 00:00, Jeremy Nicoll - ml archlinux >> <jn.ml.alx.581@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> I've been lurking on this maillist for maybe a year, after reading >>> somewhere that Arch might be a good solution for me as a linux newbie. >> I disagree with your source. If anything, Arch Linux is aimed at >> experienced Linux users... > I don't think that that is the impression that one gets from the Archlinux > website, where it starts with: > > "You've reached the website for Arch Linux, a lightweight and > flexible Linux distribution that tries to Keep It Simple." Keep it Simple does not refer to "easy" or "newcomer" friendly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/The_Arch_Way > > but I see that the last paragraph of the 'About' page ends by saying: > > "designed to fit the needs of the competent Linux user." > > which seems to echo what you (and others) have said. > > > I think what attracted me was probably the stated lack of GUI config > utilities, with most stuff configured by editing text files - it's what I > was used to in eg MVS. And from what I've seen of the linuxen that attempt > to look like Windows, there's too many GUI config utilities that only expose > a small proportion of the options that a config file could contain. I also > greatly dislike GUI config utilities (in any OS) that destroy any comments > or change histories which one might have placed in those text files. > > Also, the 'rolling release' approach sits better with me than the > potentially catastrophic approach where one is forced to upgrade the whole > OS every so often. > > >> who at least know the basic ins-and-outs of a Linux-based operating >> system > I know very little about linux, but a great deal about MVS. I've never > expected to learn an new OS quickly but instead to learn and end up > understanding how the successive layers of the OS work. > > >>> It seems to me that this captcha stops potential linux users, as opposed >>> to those who do have a working system, from joining your forum. >> Arch has no aims to be popular. > Hmm. > What is confusing about that? The devs have no desire to be popular or the coolest kid on the block or to be on every box in the world.