According to Ionut Biru: # shit happens when packages are not ready. # wait for our notification. Ah thanks. That's definitely what I did wrong. I jumped the gun by more than a few seconds :P. I still have the repo commented out in my pacman.conf, so I'll try it as soon as the notification comes. Seems I'm not the only one who jumped early, as the post here in this thread got forwarded to the Orca list as well. I'm just glad I knew how to fix the breakage on my system and so was one of the ones who was able to warn others on that list that it's not yet ready. I will post to the Orca list to let everyone know that there will be a notification when GNOME 3.8 is completely built and ready for testing. ~Kyle http://kyle.tk/ -- "Kyle? ... She calls her cake, Kyle?" Out of This World, season 2 episode 21 - "The Amazing Evie"