> So far, I have not heard any mention of this being a bad idea, or a > security concern. I much prefer the output of ls but the acl man page says that the acls update the filesystem permissions and vice versa, so I would expect that if the getfacl command shows rw for the users you have in the video group and nothing for others then the permission settings atleast are equivalent. Having said that, I cannot see how to show all users permissions logged in and out, such as multiple members of groups using getfacl, atleast on a quick test with my log file permissions anyway. Maybe there is no need to? -- _______________________________________________________________________ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) _______________________________________________________________________