On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Gerhard Brauer <gb+ML-2011@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > What are the way for people which ex. use fluxbox via > ck-launch-session and thunar as a filemanager (for > dbus/polkit/udisks things) AND NOT systemd-logind ? > > Will there be a way to use dbus/polkit-releated actions without > systemd? No. Since polkit will soon only work when the system is booted with systemd, the usefulness of consolekit is very limited. To minimize the confusion we will therefore remove CK completely (of course if anyone decides to create third-party packages as I proposed in the past [0] it could still be possible to keep CK+polkit without systemd). > I got more and more confused about the speed and amount of changes > currently ;-) There has been a lot of discussion about this on the ML. I remember polkit losing CK support was discussed when the move to systemd was first proposed [1], and I brought it up again in the proposal for keeping sysvinit working [0]. You might find more background discussion if you search our archives. There was at some point an attempt at trying to make polkit work with CK and systemd both [3], but it didn't go anywhere and the patch was rejected upstream. [0]: <http://www.mail-archive.com/arch-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx/msg31229.html> [1]: <http://www.mail-archive.com/arch-dev-public@xxxxxxxxxxxxx/msg19796.html> [2]: <http://www.mail-archive.com/arch-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx/msg29297.html>