Re: Wanted: advice dual-booting Arch and Windows 7 on new laptop

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On 19/09/12 07:02, Guus Snijders wrote:
2012/9/18 Robbie Smith <zoqaeski@xxxxxxxxx>:
Hi everyone

TL;DR: I've just bought a new HP Pavilion g6-2103ax, and I'm having
difficulties trying to figure out how I can dual-boot it with Windows 7
(which was preinstalled).

Windows *still* defaults to using MBR partitions, and even though the system
is UEFI, HP have used some trickery somewhere to make it boot from BIOS. To
make matters worse, the disk table already has four partitions:

SYSTEM: 199 MB NTFS
Windows C drive: ~ 450 GB NTFS
HP Recovery partition: 18.5 GB NTFS
HP_TOOLS: 99 MB FAT32
[...]

Hmm, i'd guess that the recovery partition is bootable, so it's best
not to modify it too much. The HP_Tools partition is probably just a
data partition (and not a very interesting one, but ymmv).
First of; do you have (or can you create) a recovery disk in case all
goes wrong?

There might be a way to repartition the drive without losing features:

1. Resize the Windows "C" partition to free up space. Either
defragment first or use windows's diskpart utitility.
2. move (don't delete!) the recovery partition next to the resized
Windows partition.
Now the tricky part:
3. either create an image of the tools partition or write down the
*exact* sectors it's using and the partition type number.
4. create a new extended partition in the free space, size: all available.
5a. create a logical partition using the type and sectors written down
at step 3 OR
5b. create a logical partition of the same type and size as written
down at step 3 and restore the image to this part.
6. If you used step 5a, move this (new!) logical partition to the
beginning of the free space. This is important for Windows drive
letters (not sure).
7. Use the rest of the extended partition to create your Linux partitions.

I'm not sure where the bootloader fits in best in the scenario, but
that shouldn't be too hard.

When you boot up Windows after all this, you might want to delete the
driveletters it will probably create for the Linux partitions to avoid
accidentally formatting them ;).


Hope that helps.
Note: this is just theoretical. It might work or it might not work...


mvg,
     Gus


I can delete the recovery partition, as I've got the "recovery" (AKA factory reset) disks from HP under warranty. The HP_TOOLS partition is at the end of the disk, so in theory I can't add an extended partition before it, as extended partitions are meant to be the last in the table. Although on this Samsung netbook I've got an extended partition as the third (marked with *) of four primaries, so it seems to work:

    # parted
    GNU Parted 3.1
    Using /dev/sda
    Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands.
    (parted) p
    Model: ATA Hitachi HTS54323 (scsi)
    Disk /dev/sda: 320GB
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
    Partition Table: msdos
    Disk Flags:

    Number  Start   End     Size    Type      File system  Flags
    1      1049kB  106MB   105MB   primary   ntfs
    2      106MB   98.9GB  98.8GB  primary   ntfs
*   3      98.9GB  303GB   205GB   extended
*   5      98.9GB  233GB   134GB   logical   ntfs
*   6      233GB   233GB   57.5MB  logical   ext2         boot
*   7      233GB   303GB   70.0GB  logical                lvm
    4      303GB   320GB   16.6GB  primary   ntfs         diag

Using that as a guide I could set up the new laptop in a similar way.

It's a shame HP and Microsoft made it so difficult, and after this little episode I'm beginning to suspect that the real reason Microsoft is pushing Secure Boot is because UEFI+GPT makes it much easier to install multiple operating systems on a machine without conflicts, but Secure Boot will require an authorised and signed key, and guess who will control the key distribution…




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