Quoted from [1]: "The hardest thing about voting is determining when to do it. In general, taking a vote should be very rare—a last resort for when all other options have failed. Don't think of voting as a great way to resolve debates. It isn't. It ends discussion, and thereby ends creative thinking about the problem. As long as discussion continues, there is the possibility that someone will come up with a new solution everyone likes." Considering that the topic is so so trivial as to the default settings, it is stupid to have a vote on it. On the other side, ArchLinux installation is so much customizable that except for people who are just copy-pasting instructions from net without thinking, almost everyone else can use initscripts. And I believe, the first population will not bother anyway about their init system. Not because the former population is not skilled enough, anyone installing ArchLinux is skilled enough. But because, the fact that they are satisfied with default options show that they are not specifically worried about special needs. The fact that a rescue/installation CD should always boot makes it relevant that it should be widely supported. Systemd will be widely supported (for better or for worse), and the corresponding effort to install initscripts is very very small and developers time is valuable. I think the debate of default is useless. -- Cheers and Regards Jayesh Badwaik stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html [1] http://producingoss.com/en/consensus-democracy.html#when-to-vote