> Of course, you are free to adopt as late as possible, We are free to adopt never just with a lower chance of any support. It may be difficult to keep a thousand packages in check, it should not be difficult to keep the few each person uses in check and there will always be other distros without systemd which means it is splitting not unifying Linux and Unix-like systems in multiple ways. I run a grsecurity kernel and if I choose I can disable some security to run pulseaudio and flash, I work around it. I don't like the design of polkit and have no trust in it or it's author for various reasons that I won't start flames or spend time discussing. It's now powerless without any issue for me or my users. I wouldn't touch Avahi with a barge pole either. People stop mis-informing the community that systemd is something we have no choice but to use and better start learning it today. The powerful message of the Giants which had to be taller in those days and the code that Linus and others have built Linux upon of freedom and ***COMPLETE*** control is here to stay. It's a beautiful thing. Thankyou AT&T and especially it's companions who left us good rules to follow (some of which are no longer with us), the government at the time preventing a monopoly and the University of Berkely for re-writing and creating BSD and going to court, stopping AT&T and anyone else from ever controlling the code. -- _______________________________________________________________________ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) _______________________________________________________________________