On 17 August 2012 11:31, mike cloaked <mike.cloaked@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Myra Nelson <myra.nelson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> There has been much ado on the arch-general mailing list about the move to >> systemd. I participated in part of it, but like others finally tired of >> "seeing a dead horse kicked" over and over and over. So much so that the >> last dev who really paid attention to the list said goodbye. Yet the free >> for all continues. I think a comment on Allan's blog post might illustrate > > Here are some stats that are quite useful in terms of the number of > users of systemd: > > At http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/static/stats/stats.html > > Using the "kernel" tab we see that the approximate number of systems > that have their system details logged using Fedora 16 is over 100,000 > if you total the entries for x86_64 and the i686 and i686 PAE kernels > most of which are systems using systemd. Given that so many machines > are currently running systemd it can't be all that bad! This is of > course only for Fedora but machines are also running systemd in other > distributions as well. > > Speaks volumes really - and again supports the decision that the devs > have made - with a much larger user base than the straw poll made > available by another poster on this mailing list. > > -- > mike c Thank you for starting a thread that (crosses fingers) will stay rant free & intelligent. After reading all the who-har in the other's I decided to install systemd on my lappy & TBH was very pleased with the result. That being that the install itself was hassle free & the configuration was bizarrely intuitive & easy, I had a small issue that lightdm-unity-greeter was not starting, so I made a note of the error given & checked the .service, .device, .target files & was astounded to see seriously plain text to the point where I followed through the process systemd took & worked out the problem reboot & bingo I fixed it without even looking on the web! I still have sysVinit installed & will begin cloning the system prior to removing sysVinit, one point is that my Arch-laptop has one partition for the whole OS but when i come to try this on my desktop I will be facing lots of different drives & partitions which I feel may also be relatively easy to resolve & get working. Either way I think I have the same feeling on this as other Archers, that being that we came to arch to live on the OS edge & take advantage of what is new in the linux world whilst trying to stick with the KISS principle. I think systemd is a step forward but the truth will be in the pudding. Again thanks for a sane thread :) -- Regards Thomas Rand