On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 03:29:32PM +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Vytautas Stankevičius > <brotheris@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Felipe Contreras > > <felipe.contreras@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Thomas Bächler <thomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> I want to squash the noise that has turned this list from a helpful and > >>> nice place to discuss with developers and users into the place it has > >>> been the last few days. > >> > >> That's authoritarian. > > > > But it is a privilege to post here, not a right. So it is different. > > The authoritarianism is what makes it a privilege. If there was > freedom of speech like in LKML, then it would be a right (kinda). > > -- > Felipe Contreras look at the end of the day this is a place for archlinux support & discussions with dev's, this is why there are policies for this & other forms of communication with the dev's & users. it is not about free speach or whether this is authoritarian it is about what this place has become due to people forcing arguments which become flame & troll fest's & get further away from policies to the point where the dev's unsubscribe! When that happens the ML begins to fail because of the actions of a few. I joined this ML in an attempt to give back to the commuinity some of the small knowledge i have by way of helping others with basic issue's they have, but the people i have turned on to Arch have seen this here & have stated they wont bother with the ML as it appears to be just flame wars!!!!!!!!!!! Whether you feel your argument was justified or not is mute when a support channel becomes a troll & flamme fest hence why the dev's left. all i see here recently are rants on rants which really should be taken else where.