On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Tom Gundersen <teg@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Stéphane Gaudreault > <stephane@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> (1) and (2) could be done after the missing unit files rebuild is over. They >> should probably be announced at the same time as I expect that some users >> will prefer a fresh install instead of "upgrading". >> (3) Maybe this could be done in preparation of the gnome 3.6.0 release >> scheduled at the end of September. > > That would be nice, if we are ready by then. Let's see what sorts of > problems crop up and how fast we are at adding service files. > >> (4) There is no rush to do that, but users need to know that it _will_ >> happen. > > I think the important point is that (3) will happen. I.e., that > "fancy" stuff will certainly stop working without systemd at some > point (soon). The eventual fate of initscripts we could get back to > (no promises made in either direction). Though, we should make it very > clear that people _should_ prepare for its eventual demise. By that I > mean, have a look at systemd at some point, and if it does not work > for you, report a bug so it can be fixed in good time before > initscripts is dropped. You expect too much from users. *Some* will prepare, most will not. If systemd has problems, you are certainly going to hear users complaining (and loudly). You can already see obvious problems in arch-general, when only a fraction of users are testing systemd, so chances are this going to happen when most are forced/guided to switch. Cheers. -- Felipe Contreras
