On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Tom Gundersen <teg@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Felipe Contreras > <felipe.contreras@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> Well, I see absolutely no evidence of such an analysis, so consider me >>>> a skeptic. >>> >>> That's ok. We are not in the PR business, we are not selling anything. >> >> You are selling a distribution. > > We are? Damn. Where is my cut. Allan!? :-) it's interesting to me how so many can believe that OSS/distros/etc/etc are really driven and decided by the whimsical desires of the complete, mob-like user base. open, collaborative development has only 5% to do with feel good all-for-one-and-one-for-all type shitz, and 95% to do with the needs of the investing/funding/contracting user-base, and/or the itches/scratches/interests of developers capable of architecting useful tools from mere ideas and/or hot air. example: in the last ~2 months i've contributed code to ~4 different projects: 3 were fulfilling a *business* need for the company that employs me, relating to AMQP and [gag] SOAP, which frankly i could care less about and would actually prefer if they faded away forever ... but no, i FURTHERED them, because that's what the requirements called for; another project is a popular Python application server, and was furthered for both business and personal/pleasure reasons (interesting); only 1 was purely for fun, relating to Python -> JS translation ... a real challenge ... alas, even the one for fun i did for *me* -- not to sound like an ass, but i don't much give two shitzs about everyone else's needs less they contribute competent code, or at the very least, competent thought and constructive ideas. a little respect goes a long way ... ... and on that same vein, i have next-to-nil patience for whining. the point of this ramble-esque message is to highlight the fact that 90% of what i output is business related, 30-40% of that is shit i wish would evaporate, and 10-20% is my personal interests/free-time-development (which i abandon and find other projects once it becomes boring and/or "un-fun") SO! truth is the commercial fedoras/redhats and ubuntus out there are all a vibrant part of this process, and they WILL supply/shoulder the bulk of development. buck up folks! just get used to it! Arch plays a part too (yay python2 symlink! ;-) in various capacities, but software research/development and long-term maintenance of decadent tools is NOT that part. why? because Arch is part of the 10-20% section of most developer's time -- ehm, you know, the part where they do what they !@#$%^& want -- so suck it up and make clear/concise contributions of code/thought/reason as best you can ... because this endless droning on RE:piddly-little-wah-wah-problems makes for really fscking boring reads. -- C Anthony
