On 15/08/12 at 04:01am, Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 3:51 AM, Jason Ryan <jasonwryan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 15/08/12 at 03:35am, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > >> I just became aware that Arch Linux plans to switch to systemd, and > >> this worries me for several reasons. > >> > >> snip > > > > I am running it on both my home machines and my work laptop. I have full > > encryption on all three devices and LVM and Raid1 on two of them. Boot time is > > not considerably faster, but shutdown is. > > > > I have not had any problems migrating or running the three machines in the > > intervening fortnight. > > So you have 3 data-points. There's plenty of different machines and > configurations out there, and the way you present your arguments seems > to suggest that because you didn't have any problems, that proves that > nobody out there can *possibly* have issues with systemd. > No - I made no such overarching claims; I just countered your experience with my own. > I believe the opposite; even if you have tested in one thousand > machines, the *possibility* still remains. Yes, the possibility exists; that is hardly a reason to spread FUD on the list though, is it? > > I think your concerns are largely unfounded and your alarmist tone does no > > credit to the Arch developers who have given this some consideration and have > > implemented it in a typically thorough and professional manner. > > I tend to not believe things without evidence, and not believe because > of some "authority" says it's true. I will believe there was some > careful analysis, when I see the result of the analysis in a > summarized form as the Google DVCS analysis. If the benefits are well > known, and the disadvantages minded, it shouldn't be difficult to > write such a summary. Would it? > I look forward to your analysis (which by your own criteria will need to include > 1000 machines, presumably); or are you expecting someone else will do this to satisfy your demands for scientific rigour? /J -- http://jasonwryan.com/ [GnuPG Key: B1BD4E40]
