On Tue, 2012-08-14 at 14:47 +0100, Paul Gideon Dann wrote: > On Tuesday 14 Aug 2012 09:08:36 Baho Utot wrote: > > I don't understand your point.... > > > > What is so wrong with the booting using sysvinit? > > > > I really don't need what systemd offers and sysvinit does everything I > > need and has not failed me. > > There's nothing inherently wrong with it, just like there was nothing > inherently wrong with pen and paper before computers came along. Many people > would argue that pen and paper does everything they need, but that doesn't > change the fact that most people find computers more flexible. Those wanting to > stick to pen and paper find themselves increasingly frustrated that they can't > get by without a computer. It's not that they're not *entitled* to their > opinion, it's just that everyone else has moved on. It's not a conspiracy; > things simply change. Maybe you don't see the advantage, but other people do. > > > So is your point that I need to move to systemd because the developers > > tell me I must? > > My point is that you need to move to systemd because if you don't, you'll be > using a system that noone is willing to maintain. > > > As for systemd being better solution for the problem of booting the > > beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I just don't see it, so why > > take away sysvint? > > Sysvinit will not be taken away. However, as is the way of software, if > sysvinit is not actively maintained, it will simply stop working in a matter > of years. > > > You can use systemd and I should be able to use what works for me and > > not be forced down the systemd path. > > Unwanted change is not nice. In fact, I haven't switched to systemd yet > because I'm worried about the switch (even though I've heard it's pretty > easy), and sysvinit works OK for me right now. However, I'm also interested > in discovering what all this new stuff is that everyone promises systemd can > deliver, so I'm happy with the idea that I'll switch at some point. > > > Isn't this what open source software freedom is all about or did I miss > > something....I have use linux from the redhat 5.2 (no I am not talking > > the enterprise version) days. > > No, open source software is not about giving you whatever software you want. > It's about producing whatever software you want, and letting anyone use it. > If you're willing to maintain Sysvinit, you're absolutely free to do that. It > may well be that someone *will* be willing to do that when the time comes. In > the meantime, I'm afraid your only choice is to use the software that is > maintained. > > Paul Not what I want to hear, but a good, objective statement! Respect, Ralf
